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it's all a political attempt by obama. he created this issue as a way to have a class war issue with the campaign. it will have no effect on deficit. no effect on rescuing us. and i think republicans ought not play that game. it doesn't help the income. >> to answer your question, the middle class tax cuts are permanent. and the response to charles would be that the obama white house believes it will help the economy. >> they're completely wrong. that is the problem. >> bret: next up, the friday lightning round. [ "odd couple" theme plays ] humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else mes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >> bret: every week, viewers vote for your choice online in the lightning round poll. and this week, cabinet reshuffle won with 36% of the vote. bac
it's all a political attempt by obama. he created this issue as a way to have a class war issue with the campaign. it will have no effect on deficit. no effect on rescuing us. and i think republicans ought not play that game. it doesn't help the income. >> to answer your question, the middle class tax cuts are permanent. and the response to charles would be that the obama white house believes it will help the economy. >> they're completely wrong. that is the problem. >> bret:...
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obama is sticking to his guns. and congressional democrats, like house minority leader nancy pelosi, welcomed the president's plan. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned-- he made it very clear, he made it very clear that he was supporting a tax cut for the middle class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the high end. and the american people know that debate, they voted for him. >> warner: still, despite all the tough talk, reporter todd zwillich of wnyc and public radio international says there's more movement behind the scenes than meets the eye. >> there does tend to be a pattern to how big negotiations like this go. the fact that they haven't reached an agreement yet doesn't mean they won't before christmas, doesn't mean they won't before new years. there is a value in doing some public posturing and trying to get the public and the media on your side in these negotiations. the speaker may be right, it may be a stalemate right now. but that doesn't mean a stalemate can't be br
obama is sticking to his guns. and congressional democrats, like house minority leader nancy pelosi, welcomed the president's plan. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned-- he made it very clear, he made it very clear that he was supporting a tax cut for the middle class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the high end. and the american people know that debate, they voted for him. >> warner: still, despite all the tough talk, reporter todd zwillich...
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in reality the obama beat romney by about 6 points. in colorado romney's team thought they were up by 2.5. they actually wound up losing by 5.5. excuse me, i'm burping here. in new hampshire they had him ahead by 3.5. the reality, obama won by 5.5. these are like 9 point differences. is internal numbers were off in wisconsin, pennsylvania, and minnesota. a closer look shows more clearly why their confidence peaked right before the vote. over the last weekend there, the romney numbers showed romney gaining strong momentum in these key states. in wisconsin, obama lost 4 points in the polling just as romney gained 4 tying up the race. in new hampshire obama lost 4 while romney gained 3. the magazine quotes a romney aide on election night talking to romney's sontagg as the results were coming in. he looked like he was in a complete state of shock, as if these numbers cannot be real. to make matters worse, their polling told them florida and virginia, who states that romney lost were were in the bag. the republican party is left asking itse
in reality the obama beat romney by about 6 points. in colorado romney's team thought they were up by 2.5. they actually wound up losing by 5.5. excuse me, i'm burping here. in new hampshire they had him ahead by 3.5. the reality, obama won by 5.5. these are like 9 point differences. is internal numbers were off in wisconsin, pennsylvania, and minnesota. a closer look shows more clearly why their confidence peaked right before the vote. over the last weekend there, the romney numbers showed...
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. >> now the fight over fiscal cliff, president obama stumping campaign style to prevent fast approaching spending cuts and expiring tax breaks and a potential economic disaster a month ago and toured a toy factory in pennsylvania, the company behind lincoln logs. the white house says the trip highlights the response extending the bush era tax cuts for everyone but now for any amount of money you make over $250,000. so everyone get as tax break but not anything over $250,000. that is the company's core customers and flames republicans for holding up the progress. republicans point the finger at the president. >> it is not acceptable to me or to you, i don't think, for a handful of the republicans in congress to hold middle-class tax cuts hostage. >> the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of a proposal. to my disappointment, it wasn't a serious one. >>shepard: speaker boehner referred to meetings with the treasury secretary geithner. republicans called plan he layed out a step backwards, so much that top senate republican were mcconnell burst into laugh laughing western
. >> now the fight over fiscal cliff, president obama stumping campaign style to prevent fast approaching spending cuts and expiring tax breaks and a potential economic disaster a month ago and toured a toy factory in pennsylvania, the company behind lincoln logs. the white house says the trip highlights the response extending the bush era tax cuts for everyone but now for any amount of money you make over $250,000. so everyone get as tax break but not anything over $250,000. that is the...
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here is a little more of what president obama had to say today. take a listen. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family. everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: timothy geithner put forth the president's sort of starting bid while he was on the hill on thursday. it includes $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements which will take place at a later date, and also about $50 billion in new stimulus spending. republicans are essentially calling it a nonstarter today. majority leader eric cantor said that it's not a serious proposal. as you heard, house speaker john boehner essentially said that this isn't something that we can work with. their main sticking point are the taxes number one, it's about twice what they would be willing to talk about, a
here is a little more of what president obama had to say today. take a listen. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family. everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: timothy geithner put forth the president's sort of starting...
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strong words from republican leadership after president obama's opening bid. the president wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $50 billion in new stimulus spending, and expanded powers for the president to raise the federal debt limit without getting any approval from congress. a senior house gop source calls the president's plan, quote, absurd. and provides a 6-point explanation to back it up. is the economy headed for that fiscal cliff? is all of this negotiating dead in the water? let's bring in our panel. monica crowley, radio talk show host and author of monomemo.com. jewelry roginsky former political advisor to senator frank lautenberg of new jersey. both fox news contributors. you say the president is not interested in compromise at all? >> no. i have just wrote a whole book about this called, what the bleep just happened. i traced first four years of his presidency. anytime he proposed a economic proposal or physical proposal it contained the exact same elements, which is tax hikes, more spending, not less, no entitlement reform and pushing up the debt l
strong words from republican leadership after president obama's opening bid. the president wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $50 billion in new stimulus spending, and expanded powers for the president to raise the federal debt limit without getting any approval from congress. a senior house gop source calls the president's plan, quote, absurd. and provides a 6-point explanation to back it up. is the economy headed for that fiscal cliff? is all of this negotiating dead in the water? let's bring...
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people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care and about other issues we were voting on. and so people were understandably frightened and now as the health care law is being carried out they recognize that this is a very consumer friendly law. and so that has changed. the issues in this past election the proper role of government, and i was running against the tea partier who wanted to shut down so much of government functions and people recognize that they really do want to have good government. but they do want efficient government and they want to make sure they're watching out for their tax dollars. they do want medicare, social security. they want those programs. they just want us to be fi
people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care and about other issues we were voting on. and so people were...
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obama is asking for 1.6 trillion. you can see somewhere in the middle as a possible negotiating or compromise point. >> we should remind everybody the president has been talking about entitlement reform for four years. "the washington post" reminded them this might ab good time to lead because you're the president. martha: it feels like there is a real opportunity here for some history-making leadership and we'll see if we get it. thank you so much. mary catherine, juan. >> go dogs. bill: here is jon sko*t. "happening nowscott, "happening now" now rolls your way. jon: we are awaiting comments from president obama on the so-called fiscal cliff, the president unveiling his bid in negotiations over the deal. republicans not impressed. in fact they are darn bad. we'll get into that. plus, planning on being a couch potato this weekend? you might want to hear about a new study first, could your couch be making you sick? a new leader from mexico but some of the same old problems, violence on the border, any new answers? comi
obama is asking for 1.6 trillion. you can see somewhere in the middle as a possible negotiating or compromise point. >> we should remind everybody the president has been talking about entitlement reform for four years. "the washington post" reminded them this might ab good time to lead because you're the president. martha: it feels like there is a real opportunity here for some history-making leadership and we'll see if we get it. thank you so much. mary catherine, juan....
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would that destroy president obama's green energy plan? i don't think so. what if food stamps instead of going up 136% just went up 130% instead. can you really say that that is an attack on folks who are getting food stamps? or can you say that when the american people increase food nutrition spending by 130%, we are actually making a pretty good faith effort to make sure folks are taken care of? mr. speaker, we see it time and time again. 30%, 40%, 50%, 59%, 46%, 62%. we are not talking about destroying federal government programs. we are talking about curbing double-digit increases that have gone on over the past 10 years. triple digit increases in so many cases. that brings us to this balanced approach we keep hearing about, mr. speaker. i hear the president say balanced approach over an over again. i just have not seen him yet do balanced approach. we saw his proposals, it came out yesterday. he wanted to raise taxes by $1.6 trillion. he wanted to increase spending on a variety of programs. he thought he could find $400 billion in reduction. not today,
would that destroy president obama's green energy plan? i don't think so. what if food stamps instead of going up 136% just went up 130% instead. can you really say that that is an attack on folks who are getting food stamps? or can you say that when the american people increase food nutrition spending by 130%, we are actually making a pretty good faith effort to make sure folks are taken care of? mr. speaker, we see it time and time again. 30%, 40%, 50%, 59%, 46%, 62%. we are not talking about...
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>> if you were obama, who would you pick? >> final question. >> it does no good to play the name game. >> you can dodge my question but not abby's. >> let's say this about the future. the future isn't afghanistan or iraq but how well prepared we are to meet the 21st century challenges of competitiveness. that will be economics, education. it will play out over the pacific ocean. why was it that the president and governor romney sat at lunch and talked about america's global leadership? >> ambassador huntsman, you're welcome to stay with us the whole show. we would love to have the father and daughter team around. >> i can't compete with abby or marianne or libby, any of my daughters. i'm not even close to their league. >> thanks, dad. >> we'll hang on to your daughter the rest of the hour if that's okay with you. >>> random act of kindness that quickly went viral thanks to one single photo. we will have the police officer who bought boots for a homeless man on a freezing cold night. t . you won't take our future. aids affects
>> if you were obama, who would you pick? >> final question. >> it does no good to play the name game. >> you can dodge my question but not abby's. >> let's say this about the future. the future isn't afghanistan or iraq but how well prepared we are to meet the 21st century challenges of competitiveness. that will be economics, education. it will play out over the pacific ocean. why was it that the president and governor romney sat at lunch and talked about...
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barack obama wasn't the only person who won. i'm not saying this to denigrate the president or elevate the president. i'm explaining the negotiations right here. you get 80% -- i got 80%, you know, when i ran in, you know -- actually ran unopposed in '98. in '9d6 i got 83%. i didn't give a damn what they said. they didn't call and say i got elected, joe, with 52% of the vote, you've got to go with me. i said that's great, mr. president, i got 80%. >> he probably did do that because he tried to make social security reform the centerpiece. >> right, and it didn't work. >> republicans didn't support it. >> it didn't work. david? >> joe, isn't one of the big questions here what boehner ultimately does is a legislative strategy, not just trying to deal with folks who won in their districts and who are opposed to taxes, but does he put a bill on the floor that he knows he has to rely on heavily on democrats to pass? is he willing to take that step, and what happens to me? >> by the way, david, i want to underline the fact, i can't say
barack obama wasn't the only person who won. i'm not saying this to denigrate the president or elevate the president. i'm explaining the negotiations right here. you get 80% -- i got 80%, you know, when i ran in, you know -- actually ran unopposed in '98. in '9d6 i got 83%. i didn't give a damn what they said. they didn't call and say i got elected, joe, with 52% of the vote, you've got to go with me. i said that's great, mr. president, i got 80%. >> he probably did do that because he...
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i take president obama at his official word. he has not decided whose name to send to the senate, and with that we go to the first of our two senatorial guests, senator bob corker, republican of tennessee. senator corker, i have laid it out as best i can. you senators have a right and a duty to decide, to advise and consent or not to a president's nominee. isn't this strange that we're having the debate about the qualifications for a candidate for the secretary of state position and she hasn't been nominated? >> i think it is, and, you know, as i mentioned yesterday, whoever the president does nominate, i certainly look forward to giving a full hearing. i don't actually know how this has, you know, gotten this way. i had a long meeting yesterday with the ambassador, and, i mean, you would have to say there's a lot of indications that at least there's some balloon floating that's taking place -- >> yeah, there is. >> i don't think otherwise she would have spent an hour and a half with me yesterday and an hour and 15 minutes with
i take president obama at his official word. he has not decided whose name to send to the senate, and with that we go to the first of our two senatorial guests, senator bob corker, republican of tennessee. senator corker, i have laid it out as best i can. you senators have a right and a duty to decide, to advise and consent or not to a president's nominee. isn't this strange that we're having the debate about the qualifications for a candidate for the secretary of state position and she hasn't...
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president obama just won re-election, so he can claim he has a mandate. i don't think it's a mandate to raise taxes, increase the size of government and put us further in debt. that's his argument. that's the process of self government. the american people will have to take a grip, not just washington, but look at how bad things are in illinois and california and new york. several of our states are very, very bads shape. >> greta: california will be interesting to watch, because they have a democratic governor, democratic legislatures now, and they've got big problems. so california is -- the democrats in california have a chance to either, you know, make things look really good or let things look very bad. at least i'm keeping my eye on that state. >> that's a key indicator of the future. i can tell you, a place like texas, they're thrilled the number of californians leaving and moving to texas. that's happening all across the west. california is exporting some of its hardest-working, best entrepreneurs, because they've given up. i was with a man just ye
president obama just won re-election, so he can claim he has a mandate. i don't think it's a mandate to raise taxes, increase the size of government and put us further in debt. that's his argument. that's the process of self government. the american people will have to take a grip, not just washington, but look at how bad things are in illinois and california and new york. several of our states are very, very bads shape. >> greta: california will be interesting to watch, because they have...
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this is obama's fiscal cliff. if the republicans cave, we'll have a fiscal cliff in about three or four years that's going to be the grand canyon. we're going to go collapsing. it's going to be awful. >> sean: i agree with you. >> we got to fight like william wallace in "brave heart." fight for america. we can win it in the next 30 days. >> sean: i'm with you. leslie, seriously, why can't we have some significant spending cuts now? the president, first of all, said he only wanted $800 billion when he was running, now he's doubled it, but there's no cuts. government can't find waste, fraud, abuse, cut back on their intoxication and power grab with spending? >> i agree that medicare is one program that has a lot of fraud. quite frankly the president has been very clear that they're going to be -- >> sean: when? when? >> democrats and republicans will have to suck it up. when you guys call caving in, i call compromise. >> sean: republicans compromise, cave, and -- >> we're not violating the tax pledge if we let somet
this is obama's fiscal cliff. if the republicans cave, we'll have a fiscal cliff in about three or four years that's going to be the grand canyon. we're going to go collapsing. it's going to be awful. >> sean: i agree with you. >> we got to fight like william wallace in "brave heart." fight for america. we can win it in the next 30 days. >> sean: i'm with you. leslie, seriously, why can't we have some significant spending cuts now? the president, first of all, said...
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you know, i think that obama obviously wants the marginal rates increased. he's really kind of drawing a line in the sand on that. a few republicans tom cole is the most notable one but a couple more today, i noticed came out and said they think their party should consider that. if we get a drip, drip, drip on that, a few a day a few a week, then maybe maybe there will be a chance by the end of december that enough republicans will go for that increase. remember, it doesn't have to be a huge number of republicans. it just has to be 25 or so of them. >> eliot: the president has drawn a couple lines in the sand. one of them is marginal rates go up. another one now appears to be the debt ceiling. he's putting himself into a position where he's going to have to tow a tough line or disappoint the very people you said earlier he's making feel very good because of the toughness and the new vigor in his negotiating position. fun game to watch michael. we'll ask you to come back in the next couple of days to tell us who is winning and losing. >> great. always a pleas
you know, i think that obama obviously wants the marginal rates increased. he's really kind of drawing a line in the sand on that. a few republicans tom cole is the most notable one but a couple more today, i noticed came out and said they think their party should consider that. if we get a drip, drip, drip on that, a few a day a few a week, then maybe maybe there will be a chance by the end of december that enough republicans will go for that increase. remember, it doesn't have to be a huge...
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and we now know many in the obama administration knew immediately that that statement was wrong. that the attackers were not angry film critics. (laughter) but al qaeda or one of al qaeda's able a. teams, the ansar al-sharia mud hens. (laughter) so susan rice met yesterday with senators mccain, graham and ayotte to clear the air. how did that go? >> ambassador rice i think does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get concerning evidence that was overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate. >> jon: here's the deal: they may be right. though on the scale of public misstatements, rice's comments seem to fall more for the embarrassing evidence of institutional disorganization end of the scale. (laughter) but here's the thing: these two don't get to be the ones who self-righteously get angry about this. they're upset she may have passed bad intel, wittingly or unwittingly to the american people. remember these two from a decade ago
and we now know many in the obama administration knew immediately that that statement was wrong. that the attackers were not angry film critics. (laughter) but al qaeda or one of al qaeda's able a. teams, the ansar al-sharia mud hens. (laughter) so susan rice met yesterday with senators mccain, graham and ayotte to clear the air. how did that go? >> ambassador rice i think does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. >> we are...
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there is no mystery about barack obama. this is the man we have come to know for the last four years. he has no intention of coromising. no intention of cutting spending. he has never shown any indication of that. he has every intention of raising the rate and will not compromise. lou: steve murphy is shaking his head. why aryou shaking your head? >> because the president thought he had a deal last year with the house of representatives. the president is willing to do this with mostly spending cuts. u: is often about the negotiations for anyone to do that. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] lou: if you want, watch the markets tonight. lou: watch the markets in europe and asia with the rhetoric today from washington dc and you tll me how sanguine you are about a deadline around christmas. the markets, they seem to be a little anxious. >> they are little anxious, but they have not gone down significantly. that was it. the economy is growing strongly. also because one thing newt gingrich got right, is so-calle
there is no mystery about barack obama. this is the man we have come to know for the last four years. he has no intention of coromising. no intention of cutting spending. he has never shown any indication of that. he has every intention of raising the rate and will not compromise. lou: steve murphy is shaking his head. why aryou shaking your head? >> because the president thought he had a deal last year with the house of representatives. the president is willing to do this with mostly...
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maybe it does not but he got a little bit crazy about the obama birthright. it could be ultimately hurting macy's. >> let me try something a little bit different and this is a question that they wanted me to ask you. this is from the viewer. she has a lot of debt and now creditors are calling. who do i trust? is this legitimately looking to help me or somebody that is going to take the money? >> or even the creditor. that will write off the entire debt and it will not but the best part is to go and negotiate with the person you owe money sometimes, the will of faith 605 on the dollar. and if there is a lot of date, there is consumer credit counseling services of san francisco. the consumer credit counseling ccc s s f .org will help you withof it all. it is not something that you want to do. and i came out with 6000, and in 10,000, and it is pretty humbling it is a shameful situation to go with poor credit. consumer credit counseling services of san francisco .org they collectors could be also a regressive on the phone? cannot agree to make and give a payment.
maybe it does not but he got a little bit crazy about the obama birthright. it could be ultimately hurting macy's. >> let me try something a little bit different and this is a question that they wanted me to ask you. this is from the viewer. she has a lot of debt and now creditors are calling. who do i trust? is this legitimately looking to help me or somebody that is going to take the money? >> or even the creditor. that will write off the entire debt and it will not but the best...
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. >> based on the meeting with secretary geithner or your phone call with president obama 09 -- obama side, can you tell us something about that phone call? >> we had a very nice conversation last night. it was direct and straightforward. but the assessment i give you today would be a product of both of those conversations. >> how much would you be open to the idea of discretionary spending cuts as far as a down payment to get to a long-range solution on entitlements? >> there are a lot of options on the table, including that one. >> you are acknowledging that there will. >> the day after the election, i came here and i made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right, so my question is what message do you have for people who are in the negotiating position or believe that it is inevitable that you have to accept some compromise on taxes? >> revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too m
. >> based on the meeting with secretary geithner or your phone call with president obama 09 -- obama side, can you tell us something about that phone call? >> we had a very nice conversation last night. it was direct and straightforward. but the assessment i give you today would be a product of both of those conversations. >> how much would you be open to the idea of discretionary spending cuts as far as a down payment to get to a long-range solution on entitlements? >>...
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i think that makes obama herbert hoover obama. he can't take a second recession and it would blow him out of the water. i think that's why the republicans have more leverage than they think. >> that's absolutely true. >> you buy that? >> more importantly there are three other reasons you should be able to get to an agreement. speaker boehner nose knows we need an agreement. three, this is the rare period in american politics where you can have governance with less politics. number four, you have a forcing mechanism. that happens very rarely, so those -- all those factors come together. i believe one of these weekends the president and speaker will get in a room and desire this things. >> we were there in the summer of 2011. we were there. i'm not saying it was i had k58, but the speaker and the president were very, very close. last question, judd gregg, why do you think it will work this time when it didn't work in the summer of 2011? >> this is the advantage of both sides to govern. we're note leading up to an election. >> it's b
i think that makes obama herbert hoover obama. he can't take a second recession and it would blow him out of the water. i think that's why the republicans have more leverage than they think. >> that's absolutely true. >> you buy that? >> more importantly there are three other reasons you should be able to get to an agreement. speaker boehner nose knows we need an agreement. three, this is the rare period in american politics where you can have governance with less politics....
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they'd have to go to the obama exchanges and with low incomes and get subsidies there to buy private insurance which probably in the end would be more expensive than medicare, so actually, you would just move from here to here and you might even increase the deficit. >> interesting point, but i still find it a little bit hard to believe. when you say we don't have to make substantive change to a program that's going to consume all of our federal spending if we keep going the way we're going, we do need to make substantial changes. it's going to hurt. >> i didn't say that. i'm part of the quality health care coalition. we want to move to out space medicine. we want every state to be as efficient as my state and 16 other states who provide care at about the third of the cost of florida and fourth of the cost of new york. we need to rationalize the system across the country and go to those states that are wasting a bumpbl of money and make them more efficient providers. we need to negotiate the prescription drug prices saving a quarter of a trillion dollars and you know, we need to reig
they'd have to go to the obama exchanges and with low incomes and get subsidies there to buy private insurance which probably in the end would be more expensive than medicare, so actually, you would just move from here to here and you might even increase the deficit. >> interesting point, but i still find it a little bit hard to believe. when you say we don't have to make substantive change to a program that's going to consume all of our federal spending if we keep going the way we're...
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president obama sent his top negotiator to the treasury secretary. tim geithner to capitol hill today. he met with leaders of both parties. republicans say they made no progress. and surprise, each party blames the other. >> the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and, secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it, we have said it, we have said it so many times the president said the same thing. it's been weeks, at least two weeks since we met at the white house and are still waiting for a serious offer from the republics. >> shepard: after his meeting with secretary geithner the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said of administration officials quote today they took a step backward moving away from consensus and closer to that cliff. ed henry is live at the white house for us tonight. ed we are getting new information about what tim geithner put on the table today at the hill. >> breaking toni
president obama sent his top negotiator to the treasury secretary. tim geithner to capitol hill today. he met with leaders of both parties. republicans say they made no progress. and surprise, each party blames the other. >> the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and, secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it, we have said it,...
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obama wanted to wash his hands now. je to do something or we will end up with a nasty regime in syria. >> bret: that is it for the panel but stay tuned for more analysis on the nuclear option. >> bret: some some of that has to be harry reid stopping by to block dinners of the mashed potatoes. mitch mcconnell is warning it could get worse. >> in the name of efficiency they would prevent the very possibility of compromise and threaten to make the disputes of the past few years look like mere pillow fights. >> he is
obama wanted to wash his hands now. je to do something or we will end up with a nasty regime in syria. >> bret: that is it for the panel but stay tuned for more analysis on the nuclear option. >> bret: some some of that has to be harry reid stopping by to block dinners of the mashed potatoes. mitch mcconnell is warning it could get worse. >> in the name of efficiency they would prevent the very possibility of compromise and threaten to make the disputes of the past few years...
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romney enjoy joining the obama administration, sbt it? >> based on the readout that we got from that meeting, i would say so. they talked about where there might be said interests, maybe that's why they talked about america's role in the world by all of the reports. you know, if you cannot agree on any of the fundamentals about what america is, what the common ground is from that election and you heard stewart stevens, there's one thing to not believe the polls beforehand but you've got to believe the poms afterwards. there is no common ground here. if governor romney had taken a different position about health care, maybe there could have been common ground at this point. he ran away from the very policy that the president embraced. he ran away from his own record. >> usually when people say, we'll stay in touch, that means they are not going to be talking often. >> exactly. >> but karen, the republicans seemed reluctant to talk about the luncheon but senator reid seemed to be pretty happy to talk about it. let me show what you he said.
romney enjoy joining the obama administration, sbt it? >> based on the readout that we got from that meeting, i would say so. they talked about where there might be said interests, maybe that's why they talked about america's role in the world by all of the reports. you know, if you cannot agree on any of the fundamentals about what america is, what the common ground is from that election and you heard stewart stevens, there's one thing to not believe the polls beforehand but you've got...
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of course president obama, during his victory speech in chicago, said he wanted to sit down, talk to mitt romney about his views how to move the country forward. you have to assume that would include a robust discussion of the fiscal cliff, given that is what lawmakers are talking about now. mitt romney just arrived here. we're not expecting anything huge to come out of this meeting. no appointment. for example, to the cabinet. but the president certainly, i think, hoping to engage in a serious conversation. this, as you point out, will be just the seventh time that these two have sat down after what was really a bruising fight during the election. this is really about sort of striking a tone of bipartisanship, helping these two former rivals to bury the hatchet but helping, i think the country to move forward, especially as we get closer to that fiscal cliff deadline. >> and ruth is here at the table. one of the issues could be the sort of backdrop the post-election comment by all sides not only mitt romney but also by stewart stevenson, op-ed his adviser. there was a time not long
of course president obama, during his victory speech in chicago, said he wanted to sit down, talk to mitt romney about his views how to move the country forward. you have to assume that would include a robust discussion of the fiscal cliff, given that is what lawmakers are talking about now. mitt romney just arrived here. we're not expecting anything huge to come out of this meeting. no appointment. for example, to the cabinet. but the president certainly, i think, hoping to engage in a serious...
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mitt romney and obama get together. for me it's awkward that they had the meeting at the white house. was that mean? shouldn't they have don't at a tgif. neutral ground? not to rub his nose in the place that he wanted to live. >> reporter: given romney's finances, -- he came here, he left without talking to reporters. we are digging for details on how it went. the white house insists they were trying to be open and courteous to mitt romney. show the peaceful transfer -- there is no violence. the race was hard fought. mr. obama won, in romney moves on and mr. romney also sat down with another important man in all this. fall ryan his running-mate. that would be interesting to be a fly on the wall. megyn: there are funny lines on twitter about that meeting and what should have been served at the meeting. thank you, sir. a white house social media effort to tip the public opinion in its favor on these fiscal cliff negotiations is starting to get controversial. the president urging americans to go to twitter and tweet my2k.
mitt romney and obama get together. for me it's awkward that they had the meeting at the white house. was that mean? shouldn't they have don't at a tgif. neutral ground? not to rub his nose in the place that he wanted to live. >> reporter: given romney's finances, -- he came here, he left without talking to reporters. we are digging for details on how it went. the white house insists they were trying to be open and courteous to mitt romney. show the peaceful transfer -- there is no...
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been perhaps the sharpest critic of barack obama since then. so i don't see them as emerging as very close friends. the second point -- >> in modern times, mitt has not returned to washington for a job. so mitt romney went home whereas other presidential losers have gone back to d.c. to go back to work like a mccain. >> i agree, but it doesn't necessarily mean -- i'm not sure the lunch will help the relationship. it seems to have been worse after the election than before in some ways. the other thing is it would be useful for obama if mitt romney had any pull with actual rops. it's not clear to me if mitt romney endorsed the fiscal cliff deal whether that would make any difference with a sorry. republicans don't really care what mitt romney thinks at this point. so i'm not sure if he has any pull that will make a difference after this meeting even if he and barack obama do become allies. >> do you have expectations? >> it may be a case of keep your trends close and your enemies closer. but at the end of the day, this was a tough race and these
been perhaps the sharpest critic of barack obama since then. so i don't see them as emerging as very close friends. the second point -- >> in modern times, mitt has not returned to washington for a job. so mitt romney went home whereas other presidential losers have gone back to d.c. to go back to work like a mccain. >> i agree, but it doesn't necessarily mean -- i'm not sure the lunch will help the relationship. it seems to have been worse after the election than before in some...
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you had re-election of barack obama. you have people realizing not only is it their second amendment right but they may be in a situation where they need a firearm to protect themselves. they're coming to the realization. it is just caused up tick and a spike. last friday on black friday it was through the roof. >> reporter: according to gallup 43% of women surveyed last year report owning a gun which is a new high. the nra is reporting that over the last four or five years there has been exponential increase in women participating in safety programs and licensing programs and hunting programs. women feel safer knowing how to use guns. i can tell you some of the gun shop manufacturers are starting to market more toward women. you see the pink series what i'm wearing here and the long rifles and some are for breast cancer awareness. jon, back to you. jon: anna koiman live at a gun range in new jersey. interesting. anna, thank you. jenna: a new washington guessing game shaping up over who will replace outgoing secretary of
you had re-election of barack obama. you have people realizing not only is it their second amendment right but they may be in a situation where they need a firearm to protect themselves. they're coming to the realization. it is just caused up tick and a spike. last friday on black friday it was through the roof. >> reporter: according to gallup 43% of women surveyed last year report owning a gun which is a new high. the nra is reporting that over the last four or five years there has been...
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i give the obama campaign credit. they picked exactly the right moment when they had a financial advantage between june and august, before general election. they defined him and did a good job. people in the romney campaign don't have anything to be ashamed of. they ran a tough race. >> tom cole, member of congress, thank you. >>> forget the powerball. wall street is feeling optimistic that lawmakers will hit the fiscal cliff jackpot. i don't know what they've heard. the market rundown is next. are we there yet? the votes are still being counted. the list of uncalled races is about to finally hit empty. our latest tally is coming up and why that 47% number is still haunting romney. >>> if jeb bush were nominated in 2016, they will be the second set by a major party. name the first set of brothers to do this? tweet me the answer @chuck thooet todd. the answer is coming up on "the daily rundown." we'll be right back. restore revive rejuvenate rebuild rebuild rebuild gives you a low $18.50 monthly plan premium... and sel
i give the obama campaign credit. they picked exactly the right moment when they had a financial advantage between june and august, before general election. they defined him and did a good job. people in the romney campaign don't have anything to be ashamed of. they ran a tough race. >> tom cole, member of congress, thank you. >>> forget the powerball. wall street is feeling optimistic that lawmakers will hit the fiscal cliff jackpot. i don't know what they've heard. the market...
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president obama is standing by u.s. ambassador susan rice once again, yesterday he spoke to reporters right before he entered a meeting with his cabinet. >> susan rice is extraordinary, continue be prouder ever the job she's done. [applause] martha: nothing like a little public support from your boss to make you feel better. she has definitely been in a very intense situation in recent days. these five republican senators all said that they left a meeting with susan rice this week with a lot more questions than answers. ambassador rice is under fire for her controversial benghazi comments. we remember that those happened in the days after the attack, after others had already said that it was a terrorist attack and she claimed that it was otherwise. bret baier joins us now, he's the anchor of "special report." good morning, good to have you here. martha here. >> reporter: good morning, martha. martha: what does that tell you about what is going on within the cabinet, within the decision making, the second term cabinet re
president obama is standing by u.s. ambassador susan rice once again, yesterday he spoke to reporters right before he entered a meeting with his cabinet. >> susan rice is extraordinary, continue be prouder ever the job she's done. [applause] martha: nothing like a little public support from your boss to make you feel better. she has definitely been in a very intense situation in recent days. these five republican senators all said that they left a meeting with susan rice this week with a...
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obama asked mr. romney to play an important role going forward, even the president has acknowledged romney's skill in making things, like the olympics, run better. but the track record for post election pow wows is not exactly good. after the 2008 election, mccain and obama met and vowed to work together on economic issues and look at them now. they're not exactly best buds. just say the word benghazi, and ooh, watch the sparks fly. still, it could be a win-win for both men. for obama, a chance to show a bipartisan spirit, and for romney, a chance to rehabilitate his image after being excoriated by both democrats and republicans for saying americans who voted for obama wanted free stuff. so the "talk back" question today. what should come of the obama-romney lunch i don't know. facebook.com/carolcnn. your comments later this hour. s. ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investin
obama asked mr. romney to play an important role going forward, even the president has acknowledged romney's skill in making things, like the olympics, run better. but the track record for post election pow wows is not exactly good. after the 2008 election, mccain and obama met and vowed to work together on economic issues and look at them now. they're not exactly best buds. just say the word benghazi, and ooh, watch the sparks fly. still, it could be a win-win for both men. for obama, a chance...
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he met with president obama yesterday. then he went to talk with wolf blitzer who asked if he would support the president's plan of bringing the rates back up on the wealthiest americans. let's listen. >> if that's what it took to make the math work i wouldn't preclude that if the numbers drive that way. >> he says maybe a tax rate increase should be part of a deal. can't it be part of a deal? not the whole deal but part of it? >> i met with a number of the same business leaders that met with the president yesterday. we took a look at the entire picture of the spending cuts, dealing with medicare, social security. dealing with the issue of tax revenue. you need to have all of these things on the table if you're going to get a solution that sends a credible signal to the markets, not just here but around the world that we are seriously dealing with our debt. unless you focus on the big drivers which are the entitlements with it coming baby boom generation hitting social security and medicare age we can't solve the problems
he met with president obama yesterday. then he went to talk with wolf blitzer who asked if he would support the president's plan of bringing the rates back up on the wealthiest americans. let's listen. >> if that's what it took to make the math work i wouldn't preclude that if the numbers drive that way. >> he says maybe a tax rate increase should be part of a deal. can't it be part of a deal? not the whole deal but part of it? >> i met with a number of the same business...
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president obama finally part of their campaign yesterday always very clever. obama operation. they came up with a way for all americans to be able to sound off on this issue. he noted that if the tax cuts on the middle class on the 98% do go up, middle class americans will pay $2,000 more in taxes every year. that means $2,000 out of your pocket so the president's asking people to tell members of congress what that -- what you could do with that $2,000. what that $2,000 would mean to you and they're sending -- asking people to send their stories to their member of congress. republican or democrat or to their united states senators and they've done so by coming up with a twitter hash tag. it's hash tag my 2k. president obama announcing it. >> obama: tell members of commerce what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress. write them an e-mail. post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it. using the hash tag my 2k. not y2k. [ laughter ] my 2k. >> we figured that would make it easier to remember. >> bill: my 2k. we're tweeting it out ourselves. you sh
president obama finally part of their campaign yesterday always very clever. obama operation. they came up with a way for all americans to be able to sound off on this issue. he noted that if the tax cuts on the middle class on the 98% do go up, middle class americans will pay $2,000 more in taxes every year. that means $2,000 out of your pocket so the president's asking people to tell members of congress what that -- what you could do with that $2,000. what that $2,000 would mean to you and...
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then they had president obama. putin. this one is the personal computer. >> gretchen: is there a woman in there? >> brian: wait a second. good samaritans. >> steve: so the point is, here is sandra fluke who, you know, she wasn't running for president. she wasn't even really one of the top tier folks and yet time magazine considering her for person of the year. bill o'reilly is amazed at time magazine. he does work over in studio a. he is amazed at how the status of time magazine has deevolved to now where they're considering somebody like her, or some other people just barely on the fringe of entertainment are being considered as the person of the year. here is bill o. >> rapper jay-z has been nominated. why on earth would he be the person of the year? ditto, jon stewart and steven colbert. steven is great. but why person of the year? joe biden is on the list. for what reason? what has the vice president done? new jersey governor chris christie is there. okay. you could make a case he handled sandy well. but what else? ou
then they had president obama. putin. this one is the personal computer. >> gretchen: is there a woman in there? >> brian: wait a second. good samaritans. >> steve: so the point is, here is sandra fluke who, you know, she wasn't running for president. she wasn't even really one of the top tier folks and yet time magazine considering her for person of the year. bill o'reilly is amazed at time magazine. he does work over in studio a. he is amazed at how the status of time...
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you don't increase as much as obama wants. you do some stuff on deductions and loopholes that republicans want. create $1.2 trillion of revenue. you have a trillion of savings already from stuff that happened last year. you do some stuff on defense. you could get the $4 trillion package that we need. it's not hard, you just have two sides that are so polarized, have dug themselves into such deep corners and seem unwilling to come out. >> it will get done. it will get done. remember i told you that. >> from donny's lips. >>> let's get to some of your charts here. katty asked you what happens if we do go over the cliff. let's look at the consequences. uncertainty index is the first one. >> as i said, we don't know what happens. there's a few indicators that give a sense as to where people, business and the economy is at the moment one interesting index i came upon is called the uncertainty index, done by several economists where they attempt to incorporate the number of news stories talking about washington policies that are in
you don't increase as much as obama wants. you do some stuff on deductions and loopholes that republicans want. create $1.2 trillion of revenue. you have a trillion of savings already from stuff that happened last year. you do some stuff on defense. you could get the $4 trillion package that we need. it's not hard, you just have two sides that are so polarized, have dug themselves into such deep corners and seem unwilling to come out. >> it will get done. it will get done. remember i told...
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coming up president obama promised to close gitmo. remember that? democrats may be making a similar promise. this time they want to bring the world's most dangerous terrorist s a lot closer to home. >> she may be a super star but she is not the top earner in the music world. she got beat out by someone who hasn't put out an album in 12 years. first on this day in history in 1972 attar reannounced a release of pong. the first commercially successful video game. >> is that what that looks like? you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. >> an article out today says most lottery winners are no happier than before winning the jackpot. that's a fair trade. how many wouldn't mind being miserable for $550 million. that's right. you live with the pain. you learn to live with the pain. i think that's what happens. >> live with the pain on a beac
coming up president obama promised to close gitmo. remember that? democrats may be making a similar promise. this time they want to bring the world's most dangerous terrorist s a lot closer to home. >> she may be a super star but she is not the top earner in the music world. she got beat out by someone who hasn't put out an album in 12 years. first on this day in history in 1972 attar reannounced a release of pong. the first commercially successful video game. >> is that what that...
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that is something that gives president obama a lot of clout right now. you can agree or disagree with the president's policy. that's for you to decide. congressman cole happens to disagree strongly, but at the same time he recognizes the political reality that all tax cuts will expire on january 1st. >> in my view, we all agree that we are not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now and continue to fight against any rate increases. continue to try to work honestly for a much bigger deal. >> congressman cole who will join us shortly is a rock rib republican, and is no longer a lone voice in the wilderness. i'm quoting now, the fact is that republicans face a new political reality on taxes. president obama's re-election means that taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. the question is how republicans should handle this reality. congressman cole, as you heard and a number of other conservatives, they believe they should give this one to the president not becau
that is something that gives president obama a lot of clout right now. you can agree or disagree with the president's policy. that's for you to decide. congressman cole happens to disagree strongly, but at the same time he recognizes the political reality that all tax cuts will expire on january 1st. >> in my view, we all agree that we are not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now and continue to fight against any...
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this is not a new strategy for president obama. this is the latest in a long line of efforts on the part of the obama white house to organize americans, to bring a grassroots campaign style efforts to bear on a policy debate. this not the first time the obama administration has done this. in fact, this isn't even a new thing for president's broadly speaking. president obama did not invent this strategy of trying to get his way on policy. remember george w. bush after he was reelected. george w. bush took off an a tour of the country at the start of his second term. what president bush was barn storming the country with to call americans to action about was his idea we should privatize social security. >> i like going around the country. i am going to keep telling people we've got a problem until it sinks in. >> it did not sink in and we did not turn social security over to wall street the way president bush suggested. that is less a caution for the current president, that president's broadly speaking shouldn't try to involve their
this is not a new strategy for president obama. this is the latest in a long line of efforts on the part of the obama white house to organize americans, to bring a grassroots campaign style efforts to bear on a policy debate. this not the first time the obama administration has done this. in fact, this isn't even a new thing for president's broadly speaking. president obama did not invent this strategy of trying to get his way on policy. remember george w. bush after he was reelected. george w....
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obama care was huge. i provide health insurance for all my employees. the aca is underwriting small businesses doing that helped me absorb a huge increase because i have a couple of folks who work for me who are going through some illness problems. >> lee saunders, your members of afscme, will be financially hurt if we go over the fiscal cliff. can you absorb this for a while? how important is it to get it done now? >> it is extremely important. we have to stick to what we believe in. the president has to use his bully pulpit and say the things necessary to move this agenda. he is saying that the middle class needs relief. the top 2% that are controlling wealth in this country need to pay their fair share and a little bit more, help and support the middle class. that's what we are going to continue to stand for. that's what we are mobilizing around all across this country. we are going to continue to do so. >> lee saunders, president of afscme, and lou smith, great to have you both with us. thanks so much. answer tonight's question. share your thoughts
obama care was huge. i provide health insurance for all my employees. the aca is underwriting small businesses doing that helped me absorb a huge increase because i have a couple of folks who work for me who are going through some illness problems. >> lee saunders, your members of afscme, will be financially hurt if we go over the fiscal cliff. can you absorb this for a while? how important is it to get it done now? >> it is extremely important. we have to stick to what we believe...
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president obama? republicans might let him do it, even though every republican in congress has signed the no taxes pledge, created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos dias. >> seems like republicans are having an easier time writing off norquist than appealing to latinos. >>> which former gop candidate got a nod on the cbs show "ncis: los angeles" last night? one of the detectives on last night's episode gave us a throwback to a certain candidate's tax plan. >> huh? look at all those center hits. nine, nine, nine. should change my name to herman cain. >> yeah? i think it's more like peewee herman. read them and weep. >> you know what? these targets are culturally biased. >> against what, surfers? >> 9-9-9 is how we remember herman cain. i guess it's better than 6-6-6. >>> are we seeing the start of a republican retreat on the fiscal cliff? you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. >>> back to "har
president obama? republicans might let him do it, even though every republican in congress has signed the no taxes pledge, created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos dias. >> seems like republicans are having an easier time writing off norquist than appealing to latinos. >>> which former gop candidate got a nod on the cbs show "ncis: los angeles" last night? one of the...
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was president, we got obama care and other pieces of legislation. i think people want well thought out negotiated bipartisan solutions to the problem. you don't get that when the president has no plan to close that hole and to deal with medicare and social. and he spends his time not around the negotiating table, but rather conducting rallys outside of town. i just think he's not serious about this. >> the president has said he would support raising the age for medicare coverage for a ten-year period. >> he has said a lot of things at different times, but he has not placed those on the table. we have leading senators like senator durbin who has the courage to deal with these issues. he was on the simpson-bowles committee who said that we can't deal with those now in the dealing with the fiscal cliff, we need to put that off into the future. my experience is what you put off to the future never happen here. >> i hope we can get a deal. >>> me too. >>> great to see both of you. john let me start with you. cornyn is pessimistic, but the markets are up
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obama does not care about economic growth. he cares about wealth transfers, redistribution. >> it's obvious that he's going to have to stand behind some significant changes in entitlements, and i think what they're asking him is what is your plan? >> there has to be an agreement. there has to be an agreement, i believe, that everybody knows what the possibilities are, so let's just do it. >> the work has to be done. that work is being done. everybody needs to, as the president said, agree to the principle, that compromise will require tough choices by each side. >> we have done our part. we have put revenues on the table, something that we didn't do two years ago during the debt ceiling negotiations. >> i am ready and able and willing and excited to go ahead and get this issue resolved in a bipartisan fashion, so that american families, american businesses, have some certainty going into next year. >> this is not -- the fiscal cliff is not about long-term solutions to anything. the fiscal cliff is not about solutions, period,
obama does not care about economic growth. he cares about wealth transfers, redistribution. >> it's obvious that he's going to have to stand behind some significant changes in entitlements, and i think what they're asking him is what is your plan? >> there has to be an agreement. there has to be an agreement, i believe, that everybody knows what the possibilities are, so let's just do it. >> the work has to be done. that work is being done. everybody needs to, as the president...